Geologist – “The sun, not CO2, drives Earth’s climate”

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Devastating news for human-caused global warming proponents.

“The sun, not CO2, drives Earth’s climate,” says Dr Roger Higgs, long-time consultant geologist and sedimentologist.

Higgs bases his statement on four vital points:

• Global warming and cooling are driven by the sun, specifically by the solar-sourced Interplanetary Magnetic Field, which regulates incoming cosmic rays, which in turn govern cloudiness and thus global temperature (the breathtakingly elegant Svensmark Theory).
• Global temperature oscillations lag 25 years behind the causative solar magnetic fluctuations. This 25-year lag is due to ocean thermal inertia in remarkable agreement with the 15-20-year time lag estimated by Abdussamatov et al. 2012).
• The idea that CO2 is the main climate driver, despite its scarcity in Earth’s atmosphere, ie 400 parts per million, near plant-starvation level, contrasts starkly with CO2’s 1,000 to 4,000 ppm levels for most of the last 600 million years.
• Earth is now cooling.  Global warming ended in 2016: proof that the sun, not CO2, drives Earth’s climate. Moreover, from AD500 to 1200, CO2 levels were anti-correlated with Earth’s temperature.

“The reality is that man’s industrialization just happened to occur in a period of solar-driven warming, a mere coincidence, causing governments to needlessly spend trillions of taxpayer dollars on CO2-reduction efforts,” says Dr Higgs.

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Maybe this thread will prompt the lazy ignorant leftist loons to link to their authoritarian sources to refute the above points.  Doubt it.  They’re more into name-calling and advocating for ‘progressives’ to shackle the Republic with wealth redistribution schemes that benefit their turd-world icons.

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No surprise this thread ended up in fake news… Anything Cappy doesn’t like ends up in fake news true or not…

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Well there is that but there is also the fact that those scientists that deny climate change and mankind’s influence on it are such a minuscule number compared to those environmental scientists that tell us, bolstered with facts, that it’s real.

So Gur can post anything he wants but knowing him it’s going to be fake news.

". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast

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“Gur can post anything he wants but knowing him it is going to be in fake news”

The fake news section is one of the reasons right leaning members need to boycott this cess pool…

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Boycott?  Shit Harpo, you can’t even leave this forum or the last one on your own.  In fact, you “left” several times.  Sort of like a smoker who quits, then quits again, then quits again, and so on.  You don’t have the ability to do things on your own, you have to have things done for you.

 

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So who are all of the ‘Climate Change’ scientists that are pushing this scam?

What data, verifiable facts, studies, etc. lend credence to the ‘Climate Change’ scam?

Give ’em credit – they no longer stick to ‘global warming’ or ‘global cooling’ as each of those scenarios are also natural cyclical phenomena.  They’re sticking with the more propaganda-favorable term of ‘climate change’.  Well duh – the climate does change. Their angle is to attribute it to ‘man made’ influences that must be regulated by the minority elitist snots, and funded by enacting taxes on the majority.

 

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2018/11/29/indisputable-facts-on-climate-change/#576f52993d05

Indisputable Facts On Climate Change

A report even you should be able to understand though with your disregard for reality you won’t believe it.

As for others, look at NASA and NOAA.

Tell me Gur, what motives do the vast amount of climate scientists have for lying (according to “you people”) about climate change?  We know the motive the Koch’s and other petrochemical organizations have for lying that climate change isn’t real; profits.  Just what profits are the climate scientists seeking?

 

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The Forbes ‘facts’ are as follows: The first ‘fact’ is the data from the Mauna Loa observatory?
Second, carbon dioxide is known to be a greenhouse gas.
Third, the average surface temperature of the earth is rising.
Fourth, the world’s sea levels are rising.

#1 – data from 1958 – “the growth rate of atmospheric CO2 is, on average, only about 50% of what mankind emits. This means that Mother Nature takes out about 50% of the ‘excess’ CO2 that we pump into the atmosphere every year. And it seem like it doesn’t matter how much MORE we put in each year…nature still takes out an average of 50% of that amount…… Carbon Dioxide Growth Rate at Mauna Loa

#2 – obvious. Rising CO2 levels have benefited the entire planet via new plant growth.

#3 – https://youtu.be/pjlPvwRP-fM

#4 – Scientists, studies & data agree: ‘Global warming’ not fueling acceleration in sea level rise

 

 

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/23/health/climate-change-report-bn/index.html

“The global average temperature is much higher and is rising more rapidly than anything modern civilization has experienced, and this warming trend can only be explained by human activities,” Easterling said.
 
Coming from the US Global Change Research Program, a team of 13 federal agencies, the Fourth National Climate Assessment was put together with the help of 1,000 people, including 300 leading scientists, roughly half from outside the government.

It’s the second of two volumes. The first, released in November 2017, concluded that there is “no convincing alternative explanation” for the changing climate other than “human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases.”

https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/

There are many, many more reports from scientific researchers that say you, Gur, are full of shit.  Of course you think you know more than those scientists.

". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast

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Gur wrote:

The Forbes ‘facts’ are as follows: The first ‘fact’ is the data from the Mauna Loa observatory? Second, carbon dioxide is known to be a greenhouse gas. Third, the average surface temperature of the earth is rising. Fourth, the world’s sea levels are rising. #1 – data from 1958 – “the growth rate of atmospheric CO2 is, on average, only about 50% of what mankind emits. This means that Mother Nature takes out about 50% of the ‘excess’ CO2 that we pump into the atmosphere every year. And it seem like it doesn’t matter how much MORE we put in each year…nature still takes out an average of 50% of that amount…… Carbon Dioxide Growth Rate at Mauna Loa #2 – obvious. Rising CO2 levels have benefited the entire planet via new plant growth. #3 – https://youtu.be/pjlPvwRP-fM #4 – Scientists, studies & data agree: ‘Global warming’ not fueling acceleration in sea level rise

You want to cherry pick but let’s go with this, which you would much rather we ignore:

Conclusions

Make no mistake. The earth is warming. Some want to argue about how much of that impact is man-made, and how much is a function of natural fluctuations in the climate. But carbon dioxide concentrations are also climbing, and we know humans are responsible for that. So we know that humans are making at least some impact.

The bottom line is we are conducting an unprecedented experiment on the ecosystem, and we can say with a high degree of confidence that further warming is in store. Given the risks, we should use every tool in our arsenal to address this issue.

You, in your infinite ignorance would have us do nothing.

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Mass deaths and mayhem: National Climate Assessment’s most shocking warnings

Billions of hours in productivity will be lost. Hundreds of billions of dollars will be wiped from the economy. Tens of thousands of people will die each year.

These are just some of the most grim predictions in the latest National Climate Assessment, a nearly 1,700-page report released Friday warns about a world heading into complete chaos by the end of the 21st century.

The scientific report, which was produced by 13 federal agencies, describes an American future nothing short of apocalyptic due to rising threats from climate change. It suggests no facet of life — whether it’s global trade, national security or personal health — will be safe. And it says every nightmare scenario will feed into another: The disasters from climate change will start to compound each other, as will the consequences….

But the new National Climate Assessment …warns, without swift and immediate action, this is what Americans can expect in the coming decades:

• Mass deaths every year
• Global food shortages
• Economic devastation
• Crumbling infrastructure – and millions of hours waiting in cars
• More mental health problems – and murders
• All life as you know it stopping instantaneously, and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
• Every city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.
• Old Testament…Real Wrath-of-God type stuff!
• Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
• 40 years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes!
• The dead rising from the grave!
• Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!

Gotta herd that mob of ignorant lemmings over the cliff – don’t ever let them question the junk science that’s the basis for the ‘climate change’ carbon-tax scam

 

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As said in another thread, you are the king of ridiculousness.

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The world is two minutes from doom

(CNN)On Thursday, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists set the Doomsday Clock at two minutes to midnight. Welcome to what we call “the new abnormal.” This phrase describes the catastrophically dangerous world in which we live….

Humanity faces two dire and simultaneous existential threats: nuclear weapons and climate change. Tragically, things did not improve on either front in the last 12 months….

On the climate change front, global carbon dioxide emissions — which seemed to plateau earlier this decade — resumed an upward climb in 2017 and 2018. To halt the worst effects of climate change, the countries of the world must cut net worldwide carbon dioxide emissions to zero by midcentury. To do that, they must undertake serious climate actions this year and each year hereafter. Last year, the world community failed dismally….

there was a rise during the last year in the intentional corruption of the information ecosystem on which modern civilization depends. In many forums, in particular social media, nationalist leaders and their surrogates lied shamelessly, insisting that their lies were truth and that the truth was “fake news.” These intentional attempts to distort reality work to exaggerate social divisions, undermine trust in science and diminish confidence in elections and democratic institutions.

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Booooooo!!!!!!

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Science /scientists tell us climate change/global warming is the real threat.

Trump the motherf*cker who publicly lies 10 times a day tells us 3 year old babies migrating from Central America is  the biggest threat.

You decide.

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We need more of Nancy Pelosi’s Angels who have a “spark of divinity” instead of children being used for agitprop purposes……

Illegal Alien Sentenced to 401 Years in Prison For Kidnapping, Rape, Lewd Sex Acts Upon a Child Under the Age of 14

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I will take “Pelosi’s angels” any day over the Hitler/Trump youth who commit acts of terror practically every day these days.

" All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force. " — George Orwell.

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Capricorn wrote:

I will take “Pelosi’s angels” any day over the Hitler/Trump youth who commit acts of terror practically every day these days.

Of course you would. You hate the U.S.A. and embrace all of the leftist attacks on our nations sovereignty.

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Gur wrote:

The world is two minutes from doom (CNN)On Thursday, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists set the Doomsday Clock at two minutes to midnight. Welcome to what we call “the new abnormal.” This phrase describes the catastrophically dangerous world in which we live…. Humanity faces two dire and simultaneous existential threats: nuclear weapons and climate change. Tragically, things did not improve on either front in the last 12 months…. On the climate change front, global carbon dioxide emissions — which seemed to plateau earlier this decade — resumed an upward climb in 2017 and 2018. To halt the worst effects of climate change, the countries of the world must cut net worldwide carbon dioxide emissions to zero by midcentury. To do that, they must undertake serious climate actions this year and each year hereafter. Last year, the world community failed dismally…. there was a rise during the last year in the intentional corruption of the information ecosystem on which modern civilization depends. In many forums, in particular social media, nationalist leaders and their surrogates lied shamelessly, insisting that their lies were truth and that the truth was “fake news.” These intentional attempts to distort reality work to exaggerate social divisions, undermine trust in science and diminish confidence in elections and democratic institutions. +++++++ Booooooo!!!!!!

We agree, that is Trump’s MO to a tee.

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