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June 19, 2019 at 18:21 #18701
Gur
ParticipantIt’s done every day at debatez
For a while, the phenomenon of leftist censorship of the right concentrated on potential speakers at college campuses. The mechanisms were boycotts, demonstrations, disruptions, and demands that they not be allowed to speak there at all because it was too disturbing, because it was hate speech, because they were fascists and bigots, and because people would be triggered—the whole panoply of accusations from leftist activists.
Lately, de-platforming and/or de-monetizing from various social media and internet sites such as YouTube is all the rage, and it’s driven not so much by students at a particular university but by those who control the sites….
There’s another point that is a bit more subtle. Once…labeled as extreme right-wing or alt-right, and therefore (fill in the blanks) a purveyor of hate speech, a racist, a bigot, a religious zealot, a wild and crazy conspiracy theorist, etc., then even if that person isn’t actually blocked by the site, the hope is that people will react to the labeling itself by shunning that person’s work.
So one of the goals isn’t just actual blocking by the sites, but a de facto censorship by the individual consumer, in which people refuse to listen or read the work of a certain person because it’s been labeled extreme and hateful….
That way it’s easy to keep the maximum number of people insulated and protected from any ideas on the right that are factually and logically correct and might even persuade a person to change a long-held idea—or, in some cases (such as that of left-to-right political changers) to change one’s mind politically in a more fundamental way. That’s why it’s even more important to label the more moderate, thoughtful conservatives as extreme and offensive than the ones who actually are extreme and offensive, because an open-minded reader or listener will probably be able to find out and decide on his/her own which pundits and writers really are extreme and offensive, and which ones are making good points. It’s that latter group the left and the MSM is most afraid of—the ones who could change the opinions of a lot of people, if they were to be given a forum and listened to with an open mind.
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F’n Nazi. Racist. Bigot. Hater. White Nationalist. KKK member. Trumpturd… Gun nut..well, that’s not the complete list the leftwing libturd dingbats use, but reasonable open-minded people can figure out that the obama-hilary cult members are wacked…..
Capricorn posted on November 15, 2019 at 09:15
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June 20, 2019 at 13:41 #18757
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ParticipantThe term used to be GIGO. It stood for garbage in, garbage out. That’s like your daily (or more) dosage of bullshit for uber right wing hate sites.
Post something with relevance sometimes and you might be believed for one. As it is, that hasn’t happened lately.
". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast
June 21, 2019 at 11:55 #18822Gur
ParticipantA leftwinger would never find anything of ‘relevance’ that contradicts their own myopic prejudicial biased stoopidity. But for the sake of enlightening ‘normal’ readers, the following shows that leftists apply political thuggery to silence opposing viewpoints.
Earlier this month an anarchist group that consists of UT Austin students called the Autonomous Student Network shared a tweet threatening to dox students who considered joining the Young Conservatives of Texas and Turning Point USA during freshman orientation.
“Hey #UT23! Do you wanna be famous? If you join YCT or Turning Point USA, you just might be. Your name and more could end up on an article like one of these,” the tweet said, linking to previous doxxing posts of conservative students at the school. “So be sure to make smart choices at #UTOrientation.”
Last year the network released extensive personal information of pro-Brett Kavanaugh demonstrators at UT Austin, including their names, photos and contact information. It went so far as to post some of the phone numbers of the employers of students and encouraged its adherents to call them to get them fired….
Capricorn posted on November 15, 2019 at 09:15
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June 21, 2019 at 12:04 #18823Desert_Fox
ParticipantUnless someone tells you which is your right and your left it’s doubtful that you would be able to tell one from the other. What do I base my assumptions on? The overall stupidity of your posts.
". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast
June 21, 2019 at 12:48 #18829Capricorn
KeymasterIf the shoe fits, wear it.
" All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force. " — George Orwell.
June 24, 2019 at 11:29 #18958Gur
ParticipantThe elitist leftist big-tech snots want to completely censor any conservative views & reporting that counter their socialistic agenda. That’s been apparent for at least a year, with many conservative websites being ‘delisted’ from social media – twitter, FakeBook, YouTube, etc.
The leftists publicly portray themselves as pre-emptively acting with heightened humanitarian insight & wisdom to create their concept of a utopia for the masses….but what they’re actually doing is carrying out the 1984 ‘BigBrother’ control scheme.
Leftists hate the truth, especially the truth about themselves, as that limits their attack on the freedom of everyone else. The leftists can’t win on an even playing field – that’s why they’re so active in reshaping public opinion to their advantage via censorship, and pushing fake news. They rely on the low-level idiots to echo the propaganda….
25-minute video at the link
Capricorn posted on November 15, 2019 at 09:15
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June 24, 2019 at 11:58 #18959Desert_Fox
ParticipantDid you go to the Trump University and take Bombastic Verbiage (rhymes with garbage) and Bloviating For Fun, courses taught by Bill O’Reilly? The 300 level courses include Words Without Meaning. That one is taught by Trump himself.
". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast
June 25, 2019 at 06:20 #18970Gur
ParticipantGoogle pulls videos accusing it of election manipulation from YouTube… which it owns
Google’s video platform YouTube is apparently no place for content that accuses the tech giant of political bias and election meddling. An expose based on a sting operation was taken down by the company a day after its release.
The online behemoth found itself in the crosshairs of Project Veritas, a conservative action group that purports to expose pro-liberal biases at various American organizations through sting operations and by publishing leaked material. Its report on Monday claimed that Google deliberately tweaks its search algorithms to promote liberal agendas that it favors, and that this is intended to help “prevent the next Trump situation” in the upcoming elections.
YouTube, the world’s most popular video sharing platform, which is owned by Google, soon took down the videos that were uploaded by Project Veritas, its head James O’Keefe reported. The footage was removed “due to a privacy claim by a third party,” a message now tells anyone trying to view it….
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Still available at the Project Veritas website linked to in post #18958.
Capricorn posted on November 15, 2019 at 09:15
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June 25, 2019 at 06:25 #18971Gur
ParticipantGetting closer to busting up Google etc. via anti-monopoly lawsuits, etc. ?
Gohmert Responds to Undercover Video of Google Released by Project Veritas
“This video shows Google’s biases are now a threat to a free and fair election, all while they hide behind the immunity given by Congress years ago when they were supposed to be a simple ‘town square’ where everyone’s voice could be heard without biased results. In fact, Google references a significant role they see themselves fulfilling in the 2020 elections. This discovery should set off alarm bells throughout the country. It is no secret that Google has a political agenda. Multiple brave tech insiders have stepped forward and exposed Google’s censorship of content and specialized algorithms. This media giant’s ‘social justice narrative’ should distress all Americans who value a free and open society. Google should not be deciding whether content is important or trivial and they most assuredly should not be meddling in our election process. They need their immunity stripped and to be properly pursued by class action lawsuits by those they have knowingly harmed.”
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The leftist twinks need to be forced to treat all content fairly, and not favor libturd views, and block conservative American voices.
Capricorn posted on November 15, 2019 at 09:15
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June 25, 2019 at 07:22 #18972Capricorn
KeymasterGetting closer to busting up Google etc. via anti-monopoly lawsuits, etc. ? Gohmert Responds to Undercover Video of Google Released by Project Veritas “This video shows Google’s biases are now a threat to a free and fair election, all while they hide behind the immunity given by Congress years ago when they were supposed to be a simple ‘town square’ where everyone’s voice could be heard without biased results. In fact, Google references a significant role they see themselves fulfilling in the 2020 elections. This discovery should set off alarm bells throughout the country. It is no secret that Google has a political agenda. Multiple brave tech insiders have stepped forward and exposed Google’s censorship of content and specialized algorithms. This media giant’s ‘social justice narrative’ should distress all Americans who value a free and open society. Google should not be deciding whether content is important or trivial and they most assuredly should not be meddling in our election process. They need their immunity stripped and to be properly pursued by class action lawsuits by those they have knowingly harmed.” +++++++++++++++++ The leftist twinks need to be forced to treat all content fairly, and not favor libturd views, and block conservative American voices.
Google is more rightwing than leftwing. That is why it has turned into an evil organization.
Since many months, I have stopped using Google.
I will not buy Android. I don’t use Chrome on my personal computers. I am phasing out Gmail. I moved my files from Google Drive to OneDrive and Box.
" All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force. " — George Orwell.
June 25, 2019 at 09:25 #18976Desert_Fox
ParticipantGruel thinks Gohmert and Project Veritas are good sources. Need there be any more proof that he’s a fucking fool?
". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast
June 25, 2019 at 09:39 #18977Desert_Fox
ParticipantPer Wiki on Gohmert:
Gohmert does not believe in manmade climate change, and has asserted that data supporting the theory is fraudulent.[30] He opposes cap-and-trade legislation, such as the one that was passed in the U.S. House when it had a Democratic majority, and supports expanding drilling, and exploration and drilling in Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR).[30]
In an interview on the C-SPAN program Washington Journal on July 8, 2015, after Pope Francis issued his second encyclical Laudato si’, Gohmert said the Pope was incorrect in identifying climate change as a serious problem. Gohmert supported the U. S. withdrawal from the Paris Agreement.
In a 2012 meeting of the House Natural Resources Committee, Gohmert stated his strong support of a trans-Alaskan pipeline, as a means for caribou to have more sex.
According to Gohmert, “When [the caribou] want to go on a date, they invite each other to head over to the pipeline. So [his] real concern now [is] … if oil stops running through the pipeline … do we need a study to see how adversely the caribou would be affected if that warm oil ever quit flowing?” Gohmert’s comments were not favorably received by the rest of the committee.
You’ve got to be shitting me! I knew the man was an idiot but the pipeline helps the sex life of caribou? I say again, you’ve got to be shitting me!
Again, per Wiki:
“Terror baby”
On August 12, 2010, Gohmert appeared on Anderson Cooper 360° to defend comments he had recently made on the floor of the House regarding “terror babies”. In a speech about national security made on the House floor in June 2010, Gohmert claimed that a retired FBI agent had told him that one of the things the FBI had been looking at were terrorist cells overseas sending young women to become pregnant so they would deliver the baby in the United States, and then take the baby with them back to be raised as a terrorist. When adult, this operative—a U.S. citizen by birth—could be easily infiltrated in the U.S. to carry out terrorist actions.
On Fox Business News, Gohmert later claimed that an airline passenger with a relative in Hamas had a grandchild who was to be intentionally born in the United States.
In the interview, Gohmert asserted that pregnant women from the Middle East are traveling to the US on tourist visas, planning to deliver the child there.
According to the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, this automatically grants citizenship to the child. He asserted that the child would then be returned to the mother’s home country and be submitted to a life of terrorist training. When repeatedly asked by the host for any evidence of this, Gohmert did not provide substantiation for either the ex-FBI agent story or the airline passenger story, but gave a description of a Washington Post article, which described “birth tourism” packages, mainly directed at Chinese tourists. These “birth tourism” packages, Gohmert pointed out, take advantage of a “gaping hole in the security of our country.”
Muslim Brotherhood
On June 13, 2012, Gohmert was one of five Republican United States representatives (including Michele Bachmann, Trent Franks, Tom Rooney, Lynn Westmoreland) to send letters to the Inspectors General[61] of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Department of Defense, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice and the Department of State outlining their “serious national security concerns”, and asking for “answers to questions regarding the Muslim Brotherhood and other radical groups’ access to top Obama administration officials.” In the letter, Gohmert and the other U.S. lawmakers wrote about information they claim “raises serious questions about Department of State policies and activities that appear to be a result of influence operations conducted by individuals and organizations associated with the Muslim Brotherhood.”
One of the letters in particular to Ambassador Harold W. Geisel, the Deputy Inspector General of the United States Department of State, mentioned the Deputy Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Huma Abedin, as an example of the undue influence. The letter said that Abedin, wife of former U.S. representative Anthony Weiner, who had access to sensitive national security and policy information, “has three family members–her late father, her mother and her brother–connected to Muslim Brotherhood operatives and/or organizations”, as backed up by a study by the Center for Security Policy.
The letter and the Center for Security Policy’s accusation were widely denounced as a smear, and achieved “near-universal condemnation”, including from several prominent Republicans such as John McCain, John Boehner, Scott Brown, and Marco Rubio.
Gohmert and his colleagues were praised by Newt Gingrich as the “National Security Five” in an editorial on the Politico website. Gingrich expressed he favors investigating the Muslim Brotherhood, and made clear his support to Gohmert and the other four state-elected representatives for rising up concerns that improve national security.[Columnist Cal Thomas replied, to accusations of “McCarthyism”, that the real possibility of infiltration by Islamic extremists deserves to be investigated.
Comments on Robert MuellerRepresentative Gohmert was one of three Republicans who called for the resignation of Robert Mueller, the prosecutor investigating Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, on the grounds that they believe Mueller can not conduct his investigation fairly “because of his relationship with James Comey, his successor at the bureau” As of March 2016, “
ix people connected to President Trump have been charged by the special counsel with an array of crimes, including financial fraud and lying to Congress and investigators. Five have been convicted or pleaded guilty. Twenty-eight others, including 26 Russians, also face charges.”Comments on George Soros
In December, 2018, Gohmert made national news headlines as a guest on Fox News. Gohmert digressed from the topic of Google to assert an unrelated and defamatory allegation about Holocaust survivor and philanthropist George Soros. The allegation, which is popular on right wing propaganda websites but has been thoroughly debunked by credible news sources, denigrates Soro’s childhood experiences during the Holocaust. Later, Stuart Varney of Fox News apologized for Gohmert’s “false allegations” against Soros.
When Varney apologieses for you, you have to know you are very fucked up.
This is the man Gruel uses as a source. Again, proof of Gruel being a fucking fool.
". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast
June 25, 2019 at 09:46 #18978Desert_Fox
ParticipantProject Veritas and O’Keefe per Wiki:
James Edward O’Keefe III (born June 28, 1984) is an American conservative political activist. He produces secretly recorded undercover audio and video encounters with figures and workers in academic, governmental, and social service organizations, purporting to show abusive or allegedly illegal behavior by employees and/or representatives of those organizations. He has been criticized for selectively editing videos to misrepresent the context of the conversations and the subjects’ responses, creating the false impression that people said or did things they did not.
He gained national attention for his video recordings of workers at Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) offices in 2009, his arrest and guilty plea in 2010 for entering the federal office of then-U.S. Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) under false pretenses, and the release of videos of conversations with two high-ranking, now former, NPR executives in 2011.
When his videos portraying ACORN workers seemingly aiding a couple in criminal planning hit the 24-hour cable news cycle, the U.S. Congress quickly voted to freeze funds for the non-profit. The national controversy resulted in the non-profit also losing most of its private funding before investigations of the videos concluded no illegal activity occurred. In March 2010, ACORN was close to bankruptcy and had to close or rename most of its offices. Shortly after, the California State Attorney General’s Office and the US Government Accountability Office released their related investigative reports. The Attorney General’s Office found that O’Keefe had misrepresented the actions of ACORN workers in California and that the workers had not broken any laws. A preliminary probe by the GAO found that ACORN had managed its federal funds appropriately. One of the fired ACORN workers sued O’Keefe for invasion of privacy; O’Keefe issued an apology and agreed to pay $100,000 in a settlement.
O’Keefe has gained support from right-wing and conservative media and interest groups. In 2009, Andrew Breitbart commissioned him for the option to publish new videos exclusively on BigGovernment.com. In June 2010, O’Keefe formed a 501(c)(3) organization, Project Veritas.
So the guy who heads this highly misnamed entity was a lying asshole before he created it. And he hasn’t stopped being that lying asshole.
More from Wiki:
Oh hell, the list goes on and on. Read it for yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe
There’s little wonder Gruel uses this for his sources. Truth, reality are not what he cares to promote. Ever the trumpturd, every the fucking fool.
". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast
June 25, 2019 at 13:21 #18993Gur
ParticipantMadam Renfro, as one of the most idiotic poseurs ever to squat on the libturdian landscape, ignores the fact that wikipedia limits the editorial reviewers on its site to leftist, conservative-hating biased hyenas.
Anytime a nitwit uses the false science of “climate change” to bolster their position, you know right off that they’re just wallowing in the comforting (to them) lies that resonate with their warped psuedo-elitism. Favoring the climate-scam grifters is a sure tell that Renfro et al. are chumped surrender monkees….
The ‘Muslim Brotherhood’ would certainly reward the Madam with a forced conversion to their ideology – with the alternative of being thrown off a roof. And that Sharia environment is so much more appealing to the leftists, than is our Constitutional Republic.
Yes, the Madam wants no link to the source, i.e., Project Veritas, because the leftist propaganda establishment wants to enforce censorship of conservatives. In the leftist world, there is no room for debate or differing opinions. Yeah, that’s sure to produce good results – let only the most absurd libturds have a voice….
Having been pre-programmed by his embrace of everything anti-American, Renfro cheep-swills his way thru life, insensate to reality…
Capricorn posted on November 15, 2019 at 09:15
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June 25, 2019 at 13:33 #18996Desert_Fox
ParticipantAh, you think Wiki makes shit up. No, you’re mistaking them for conservative assholes like Gohmert and O’Keefe. You remain a fucking fool attempting to denigrate legitimate sources while you use your usual, or ever worse, bullshit sources.
". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast
June 26, 2019 at 16:46 #19067Gur
ParticipantCapricorn posted on November 15, 2019 at 09:15
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June 26, 2019 at 17:26 #19070BadBoyz
Participant#TRAITORTRUMP4PRISON!
June 26, 2019 at 18:56 #19081Desert_Fox
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Sure, we’re all hanging on Turcker’s every word because he understands all things bullshit. 😁
". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast
June 26, 2019 at 19:30 #19085Anonymous
Inactiveso the right wing wants pedophiles to have their way…
well gee they have trump and trump defending epstein…
timely the in-justice department just argued that trumps sec of labor who broke the laws when prosecuting trumps best friend serial pedophile Epstein as the lead federal prosecutor. well they just argued in court that the case should not be re-opened it should remain settled even though the prosecutor broke the law. WHAT the f is our justice department aguing to allow a serial pedophile off the hook for. Do these people have no soul?
do right wing pedophile party side, well should they not have the right to be on forums?
https://news.yahoo.com/us-once-secret-jeffrey-epstein-142037771.html
US: Once-secret Jeffrey Epstein sex offender deal must stand
Associated Press•June 25, 2019
16 CommentsFILE- In this July 30, 2008 file photo, Jeffrey Epstein is shown in custody in West Palm Beach, Fla. Labor Secretary nominee Alexander Acosta is expected to face questions at his Senate confirmation hearing about an unusual plea deal he oversaw for Epstein, a Florida billionaire and sex offender, as U.S. attorney in Miami. Federal prosecutors say a once-secret plea deal reached over a decade ago with Epstein must stand, despite objections from many of his victims. Prosecutors said in a new court filing that a violation of the Crime Victims’ Rights Act does not allow for the agreement to be voided. (Uma Sanghvi/Palm Beach Post via AP)
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MIAMI (AP) — A once-secret plea deal reached a decade ago with wealthy convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein must stand, despite objections from many of his victims who were teenagers at the time, federal prosecutors said in a new court filing.Prosecutors said a violation of the Crime Victims’ Rights Act does not allow for the agreement to be voided. Some of the victims claim the deal, known as a non-prosecution agreement or NPA, should be thrown out at least partially because they were not consulted as required under that law.
“The past cannot be undone; the government committed itself to the NPA, and the parties have not disputed that Epstein complied with its provisions,” prosecutors said.
Jack Scarola, an attorney for two victims who challenged the agreement in West Palm Beach federal court, said Tuesday that “the government has failed to comply with its own regulations” in the case.
“Congress did not contemplate the extraordinary circumstances of this conspiracy between the government and a serial child molester,” Scarola said in an email.
The 2008 deal ended a federal investigation that could have landed Epstein, now 66, in prison for life. Instead, he was allowed to plead guilty to lesser state charges that resulted in a 13-month jail sentence and required financial settlements to dozens of his victims. He also had to register as a sex offender.
The agreement was overseen by former Miami U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta, who is now President Donald Trump’s labor secretary. In the face of intense criticism, Acosta has defended the plea deal as appropriate under the circumstances.
It will be up to U.S. District Judge Kenneth Marra to decide what to do. The victims have a July 8 deadline to respond to the Justice Department’s filing.
Although the Justice Department supports the Epstein agreement, Assistant U.S. Attorneys Jill Steinberg and Nathan Kitchens acknowledged in the filing that the failure to consult victims “fell short of the government’s dedication to serve victims to the best of its ability.”
They asked that Marra approve a Justice Department proposal that would allow victims to speak in a public court hearing about the Epstein agreement, if they wish. They also proposed that a government representative be chosen to meet with any victims privately to discuss the deal, and that additional training be required for prosecutors in the Miami-based federal district.
These actions, they wrote, “are necessary to give a voice to victims of Jeffrey Epstein and an opportunity for them to understand why the government resolved the case in the manner it did.”
The prosecutors added that some victims said in recent meetings that they want to remain anonymous. The prosecutors also said voiding the plea deal might jeopardize the restitution money that Epstein paid them under its terms. Steinberg and Kitchens work in the Atlanta U.S. attorney’s office, which was appointed to handle the case in March.
Epstein is a wealthy hedge fund manager who once counted as friends former President Bill Clinton, Great Britain’s Prince Andrew, and Trump, who was his neighbor in Palm Beach at the time.
Court documents show at least 40 underage girls were brought into Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion for what turned into sexual encounters. Authorities say he had female fixers who would look for suitable girls, some local and others recruited from Eastern Europe and other parts of the world.
Epstein also has maintained a home in New York City, a ranch in New Mexico and a private Caribbean island. Some of the girls were brought to those places as well, court documents show.
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