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January 21, 2020 at 20:46 #30334
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Keymaster" All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force. " — George Orwell.
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January 22, 2020 at 21:22 #30421
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KeymasterChildren in cages was first done by Obama and Democrats said nothing…
No, you are repeating Trump’s lies. The only time children were separated under President Obama was in rare cases where the parents or guardians were abusing the children. <h1>STOP FUCKING LYING ALL THE FUCKING TIME</h1>
I don’t have time to prove you wrong tonight but I will… BTW my post didn’t say anything about children separated from their parents.. Learn to read before you call me out for lying….
Obama didn’t have a policy to separate children from parents.
Obama’s use of the premises were to unite children with their parents or guardians, and Obama admin had a strict policy that if those children were kept in those premises, it was only for 72 hours to unite children with parents or relatives already in the United States. So they were maximum of 72 hour shelters.
However Trump’s policy was to separate children from parents and the children after cruelly separated were indefinitely kept to satisfy the sadism of Trump and his racist cult.
Hence these were created to shelter children and that too in exceptional cases to unite them with their families, while Trump used them to separate them from their family and cage them.
" All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force. " — George Orwell.
January 22, 2020 at 21:47 #30422Desert_Fox
ParticipantThat will be hard to do seeing as Cappy’s right.
Cappy is not correct… Children were put in cages under the Obama Administration…
Gateway Pundit doesn’t count and you’re still a lying sack of shit.
". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast
January 23, 2020 at 07:39 #30428Johnny Yuma
ParticipantCappy, so now the cages were for shelter…So, is my post that Obama put children in cages still a lie?
BTW I love your deflection..
January 23, 2020 at 08:29 #30429Capricorn
KeymasterCappy, so now the cages were for shelter…So, is my post that Obama put children in cages still a lie? BTW I love your deflection..
No, Obama did not put them in cages. They were shelters for not more than 72 hours (and that too in very rare cases) for children who were separated before they reached the border so they can be united with their parents or relatives already in US>
Whereas in case of Trump:
Policy was made to separate children from parents and put them in cages for indefinite time.
So the same facilities can be used as a shelter or a cage. It depends on intent and how they were treated.
" All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force. " — George Orwell.
January 23, 2020 at 09:13 #30431Johnny Yuma
ParticipantCappy, so now the cages were for shelter…So, is my post that Obama put children in cages still a lie? BTW I love your deflection..
No, Obama did not put them in cages. They were shelters for not more than 72 hours (and that too in very rare cases) for children who were separated before they reached the border so they can be united with their parents or relatives already in US> Whereas in case of Trump: Policy was made to separate children from parents and put them in cages for indefinite time. So the same facilities can be used as a shelter or a cage. It depends on intent and how they were treated.
My post was about cages and children not President Trump…
Photo evidence coming..
January 23, 2020 at 10:27 #30432Capricorn
KeymasterCappy, so now the cages were for shelter…So, is my post that Obama put children in cages still a lie? BTW I love your deflection..
No, Obama did not put them in cages. They were shelters for not more than 72 hours (and that too in very rare cases) for children who were separated before they reached the border so they can be united with their parents or relatives already in US> Whereas in case of Trump: Policy was made to separate children from parents and put them in cages for indefinite time. So the same facilities can be used as a shelter or a cage. It depends on intent and how they were treated.
My post was about cages and children not President Trump… Photo evidence coming..
Again, you are not understanding the point.
A castle can be used as a cage or a prison, and the same castle can be used for hospitality purposes.
The physical structure can either be used as a shelter or as a cage or prison.
Under Obama, it was used as a shelter for kids who were separated from parents/relatives before they arrived to US. Whereas Trump separated families intentionally and caged the children in them indefinitely.
" All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force. " — George Orwell.
January 23, 2020 at 12:18 #30434Desert_Fox
ParticipantCappy, so now the cages were for shelter…So, is my post that Obama put children in cages still a lie? BTW I love your deflection..
No, Obama did not put them in cages. They were shelters for not more than 72 hours (and that too in very rare cases) for children who were separated before they reached the border so they can be united with their parents or relatives already in US> Whereas in case of Trump: Policy was made to separate children from parents and put them in cages for indefinite time. So the same facilities can be used as a shelter or a cage. It depends on intent and how they were treated.
My post was about cages and children not President Trump…
Photo evidence coming..
The more you post the more you show yourself to be full of shit. 😂
". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast
January 23, 2020 at 13:17 #30438Johnny Yuma
ParticipantNo, you don’t understand… You are playing with words…
I am taking about a wire cage…
Photo evidence coming…
January 23, 2020 at 13:21 #30439Capricorn
KeymasterNo, you are not getting it. Obama used the structure to protect, shelter and unite the kids with their families, and temporarily for not more than 72 hours till they can locate parents/guardians.
Trump used the same things by breaking up families, and imprisoning the kids, and letting kids die in their prison.
" All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force. " — George Orwell.
January 23, 2020 at 13:47 #30441Desert_Fox
ParticipantHarpo is going to see it his way and the facts be damned.
". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast
January 23, 2020 at 13:59 #30442Johnny Yuma
ParticipantHarpo is going to see it his way and the facts be damned.
Be quiet Desertfox, adults are trying to carry on a conversation…
January 23, 2020 at 15:14 #30443Desert_Fox
ParticipantHarpo is going to see it his way and the facts be damned.
Be quiet Desertfox, adults are trying to carry on a conversation…
Cappy and I are here but I see no other adults. Just a trumpturd. 😋
". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast
January 23, 2020 at 16:52 #30446Johnny Yuma
ParticipantLeft Las Vegas this AM so now I am back at my winter home in Arizona…
On January 22 I posted ‘Children in cages was first done by Obama and Democrats said nothing’…
Cappy replied with this post…
“No, you are repeating Trump’s lies.
The only time children were separated under President Obama was in rare cases where the parents or guardians were abusing the children.
STOP FUCKING LYING ALL THE FUCKING TIME”
Please note I never posted anything about children separated from their parents…
Over the next few days I will be making the case Children in cages was first done by Obama…
Lets start with the definition of cage…
cage
[kāj]
NOUN
cages (plural noun)
a structure of bars or wires in which birds or other animals are confined.
“she kept a canary in a cage” · “his cage of loneliness”
synonyms:
enclosure · pen · pound · coop · hutch · crate · birdcage · aviary · mew · corral
a prison cell or camp.
“inside the cage, three handcuffed prisoners were fighting” · “each cage had a commanding officer who acted on behalf of the prisoners”
synonyms:
snare · net · prison · encumbrance · burden · problem
an open framework forming the compartment in an elevator.
“we passed the elevator shafts, each with its rattling metal cage”
a structure of crossing bars or wires designed to hold or support something.
“the bottle slots into a light cage on the bike’s frame”
baseball
a portable backstop situated behind the batter during batting practice.
(in hockey and other games) a goal made from a network frame.
an indoor athletic facility with areas fenced off for security.
VERB
(be caged)
cages (third person present) · caged (past tense) · caged (past participle) · caging (present participle)
confine in or as in a cage.
“the parrot screamed, furious at being caged”
synonyms:
confine · shut in/up · pen · lock up · coop up · immure · incarcerate · imprison · impound · mew · corral
informal
put in prison.
“five more teenage thugs were caged yesterday”MORE TOMORROW…
January 23, 2020 at 17:09 #30447Capricorn
KeymasterLeft Las Vegas this AM so now I am back at my winter home in Arizona… On January 22 I posted ‘Children in cages was first done by Obama and Democrats said nothing’… Cappy replied with this post… “No, you are repeating Trump’s lies. The only time children were separated under President Obama was in rare cases where the parents or guardians were abusing the children. STOP FUCKING LYING ALL THE FUCKING TIME” Please note I never posted anything about children separated from their parents… Over the next few days I will be making the case Children in cages was first done by Obama… Lets start with the definition of cage… cage [kāj] NOUN cages (plural noun) a structure of bars or wires in which birds or other animals are confined. “she kept a canary in a cage” · “his cage of loneliness” synonyms: enclosure · pen · pound · coop · hutch · crate · birdcage · aviary · mew · corral a prison cell or camp. “inside the cage, three handcuffed prisoners were fighting” · “each cage had a commanding officer who acted on behalf of the prisoners” synonyms: snare · net · prison · encumbrance · burden · problem an open framework forming the compartment in an elevator. “we passed the elevator shafts, each with its rattling metal cage” a structure of crossing bars or wires designed to hold or support something. “the bottle slots into a light cage on the bike’s frame” baseball a portable backstop situated behind the batter during batting practice. (in hockey and other games) a goal made from a network frame. an indoor athletic facility with areas fenced off for security. VERB (be caged) cages (third person present) · caged (past tense) · caged (past participle) · caging (present participle) confine in or as in a cage. “the parrot screamed, furious at being caged” synonyms: confine · shut in/up · pen · lock up · coop up · immure · incarcerate · imprison · impound · mew · corral informal put in prison. “five more teenage thugs were caged yesterday” MORE TOMORROW…
No, Obama sheltered the kids who were separated to unite them. That’s not caging them because Obama admin did not treat them as criminals but refugees and they were temporary shelters to protect kids.
Trump made a policy of separating kids from their parents and forced them into cages for days, weeks and months, and labeled refugees as criminals.
Trump also called brown people “animals” so and animals are put in cages.
" All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force. " — George Orwell.
January 23, 2020 at 17:34 #30449Desert_Fox
ParticipantHere you go Harpo; you are, as usual, wrong. The question is are you lying or are you ignorant or is it a case of both?
Harpo’s lie, or ignorance: Children in cages was first done by Obama…
A lot of what’s happening is unprecedented. However, those who study the border, like Soto, know that parents and their children have been separated by American immigration policies for decades, if not longer. As Soto points out, this has often happened out of view from most Americans and photographers’ cameras, starting from the first migrations from Latin America to the United States.
So Obama wasn’t the first one but the main point is, though Harpo doesn’t like to admit it, is that Trump has taken this to a level beyond all reasonable humanity.
". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast
January 23, 2020 at 18:07 #30450Johnny Yuma
ParticipantHere you go Harpo; you are, as usual, wrong. The question is are you lying or are you ignorant or is it a case of both? Harpo’s lie, or ignorance: Children in cages was first done by Obama… A lot of what’s happening is unprecedented. However, those who study the border, like Soto, know that parents and their children have been separated by American immigration policies for decades, if not longer. As Soto points out, this has often happened out of view from most Americans and photographers’ cameras, starting from the first migrations from Latin America to the United States. https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/08/us-immigration-policy-has-traumatized-children-for-nearly-100-years/567479/ So Obama wasn’t the first one but the main point is, though Harpo doesn’t like to admit it, is that Trump has taken this to a level beyond all reasonable humanity.
My post isn’t about children separated from their parents…My post is about children in cages and these cages were build in 2015 by Obama and Obama was the first president to put children in those cages…
The children in question are unaccompanied children fleeing violence in Central American countries…
Your poor reading comprehension is the cause of you making yourself out to be a fool again…
January 23, 2020 at 18:45 #30453Desert_Fox
ParticipantPoor reading comprehension has nothing to do with your failure to complete a gotcha.
A cage can refer to any type of containment device.
You are such a failure on all counts. Now you understand why I question whether you’ve served in the military as you claim? 🙄
It’s not me that’s the fool. Look in the mirror and you might find one.
". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast
January 23, 2020 at 19:02 #30454Johnny Yuma
ParticipantPoor reading comprehension has nothing to do with your failure to complete a gotcha. A cage can refer to any type of containment device. You are such a failure on all counts. Now you understand why I question whether you’ve served in the military as you claim?
It’s not me that’s the fool. Look in the mirror and you might find one.
You have always tried to appear much smarter than you actually are… Truth is, you are not very bright…
January 23, 2020 at 19:42 #30456Capricorn
KeymasterObama built shelters for refugees.
Trump converted them into cages by detaining and separating families by illegally giving them criminal status.
It is like this: If some frightened children who lost their parents knock on your door, you let them in and feed them and provide them a bed, you are sheltering them till their parents are located. This is what happened under Obama.
But in the same house, a family knocks on the door, you drag only the children inside, confine them and call it a home invasion, you are essentially taking child prisoners. Trump did this.
Same house but how you treat them makes a difference.
" All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force. " — George Orwell.
January 23, 2020 at 20:11 #30457Desert_Fox
ParticipantPoor reading comprehension has nothing to do with your failure to complete a gotcha. A cage can refer to any type of containment device. You are such a failure on all counts. Now you understand why I question whether you’ve served in the military as you claim?
It’s not me that’s the fool. Look in the mirror and you might find one.
You have always tried to appear much smarter than you actually are… Truth is, you are not very bright…
Coming from someone with such a grasp on ignorance as you have I consider that a compliment.
". . . those who claim to know the Mind of God, who will tell you what God thinks and how He will judge and condemn others—those people are the greatest of all blasphemers." Aloysius Xingu Leng Pendergast
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